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		<title>By: JackBauer</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2009/11/10/movies/roland-emmerich-2012/comment-page-1/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>JackBauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Stargate franchise. How could you not like the characters of SG1 and Atlantis? They feel like real people set in todays timeline. Like B5, just more updated. 

And I agree with TS&#039;s view. It took until the 3rd last episode of the 1st season (where Jackson goes to an alternate reality which Earth is being ransacked which affects the season finale in the current reality) 

But I agree with Jammer too, there is too much TV and too little time. Ive never watched The Shield, Homicide, CSI, and countless others. I simply dont have the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Stargate franchise. How could you not like the characters of SG1 and Atlantis? They feel like real people set in todays timeline. Like B5, just more updated. </p>
<p>And I agree with TS&#8217;s view. It took until the 3rd last episode of the 1st season (where Jackson goes to an alternate reality which Earth is being ransacked which affects the season finale in the current reality) </p>
<p>But I agree with Jammer too, there is too much TV and too little time. Ive never watched The Shield, Homicide, CSI, and countless others. I simply dont have the time.</p>
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		<title>By: TS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poltargyst: How so?

Eduardo: You should give SG-1 a shot, I think you&#039;ll be pleasantly surprised. The thing is, the first half of the first season is mostly... bad. But the show found it&#039;s footing pretty quickly, especially compared to other shows like TNG or even DS9. It&#039;s worth a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poltargyst: How so?</p>
<p>Eduardo: You should give SG-1 a shot, I think you&#8217;ll be pleasantly surprised. The thing is, the first half of the first season is mostly&#8230; bad. But the show found it&#8217;s footing pretty quickly, especially compared to other shows like TNG or even DS9. It&#8217;s worth a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Eduardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eduardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me 2012 is pretty much Day after Tomorrow X 100. It&#039;s definitely disaster porn, but not as bad as I feared. It worked for me, as long as I kept my suspension of disbelief.

There are plenty of holes I&#039;m able to overlook. The only thing that bothers me are some of the arbitrary character deaths, and the fact that you can predict every inch of the plot to the point where act 2 ends and act 3 begins. It&#039;s that hammy.

Woody Harrelson keeps most of the first act funny and watchable though.

Emmerich made the disaster film to end all disaster films. And he already said he doesn&#039;t plan on getting back to this genre again, despite rumors of an ID4 sequel.

I actually enjoyed the Stargate film. Russell and Spader fit the story well. Can&#039;t comment on the show, since I only saw the original pilot, and nothing else. And I loved Independence Day. I still do to this day, because it had a great music score, terrific design of alien craft, and it put comedic characters who made the story feel less serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me 2012 is pretty much Day after Tomorrow X 100. It&#8217;s definitely disaster porn, but not as bad as I feared. It worked for me, as long as I kept my suspension of disbelief.</p>
<p>There are plenty of holes I&#8217;m able to overlook. The only thing that bothers me are some of the arbitrary character deaths, and the fact that you can predict every inch of the plot to the point where act 2 ends and act 3 begins. It&#8217;s that hammy.</p>
<p>Woody Harrelson keeps most of the first act funny and watchable though.</p>
<p>Emmerich made the disaster film to end all disaster films. And he already said he doesn&#8217;t plan on getting back to this genre again, despite rumors of an ID4 sequel.</p>
<p>I actually enjoyed the Stargate film. Russell and Spader fit the story well. Can&#8217;t comment on the show, since I only saw the original pilot, and nothing else. And I loved Independence Day. I still do to this day, because it had a great music score, terrific design of alien craft, and it put comedic characters who made the story feel less serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Poltargyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poltargyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, TS, there were times when I was watching SG-1 when I thought SG-1 was more like Star Trek than the new Star Trek shows.

Universe seems like a darker show.  Like it&#039;s a parallel with Battlestar Galactica.  The original series was a light action show.  This new one seems more like a dark drama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, TS, there were times when I was watching SG-1 when I thought SG-1 was more like Star Trek than the new Star Trek shows.</p>
<p>Universe seems like a darker show.  Like it&#8217;s a parallel with Battlestar Galactica.  The original series was a light action show.  This new one seems more like a dark drama.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How seriously can I take someone who describes the film Independence Day as &quot;brilliant?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How seriously can I take someone who describes the film Independence Day as &#8220;brilliant?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Latex Zebra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latex Zebra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop suggesting Jammer watches more TV. His TV should be taken away until he finishes his TNG reviews. 
I understand reviewing them without a TV will be difficult but these are tough times and hard measures must be taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop suggesting Jammer watches more TV. His TV should be taken away until he finishes his TNG reviews.<br />
I understand reviewing them without a TV will be difficult but these are tough times and hard measures must be taken.</p>
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		<title>By: TS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Stargate shows are much, much better than the mediocre film that spawned them. That whole franchise is kinda comparable to Star Trek. SG-1 is sort of the classic series, like TNG is... although it went on for 2 years too long. Atlantis is very much like Voyager. Tons of potential, but it ultimately failed to use said potential. And Universe... I think you&#039;d really like Universe. Great franchise. Maybe some day you&#039;ll see &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stargate shows are much, much better than the mediocre film that spawned them. That whole franchise is kinda comparable to Star Trek. SG-1 is sort of the classic series, like TNG is&#8230; although it went on for 2 years too long. Atlantis is very much like Voyager. Tons of potential, but it ultimately failed to use said potential. And Universe&#8230; I think you&#8217;d really like Universe. Great franchise. Maybe some day you&#8217;ll see &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt L: I&#039;m aware of the options available in this age of DVD, Netflix, Hulu, etc. But it&#039;s really more a matter of time. I&#039;ve not felt the need to spend the time and go the retrospect route on those particular shows. Maybe someday, but also possibly not, because there&#039;s always something new that tends to take precedence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt L: I&#8217;m aware of the options available in this age of DVD, Netflix, Hulu, etc. But it&#8217;s really more a matter of time. I&#8217;ve not felt the need to spend the time and go the retrospect route on those particular shows. Maybe someday, but also possibly not, because there&#8217;s always something new that tends to take precedence.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also need to defend Stargate - the first act especially is really quite intriguing and mysterious. The concept is executed really well, and only falls apart in the second half when it becomes a standard military/population uprising story. They didn&#039;t seem to know *where* to go with the concept, though I thought that the series developed it fairly well. 

I liked The Day After Tomorrow too. It&#039;s silly, to be sure, but I&#039;d say that it&#039;s one of the best overwrought disaster movies made since the 1970s. The real bottom of the barrel for Emmerich, though, is surely 10,000 BC, a sort of mismash of previous Emmerich movies with paper thin characters and a thinner story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also need to defend Stargate &#8211; the first act especially is really quite intriguing and mysterious. The concept is executed really well, and only falls apart in the second half when it becomes a standard military/population uprising story. They didn&#8217;t seem to know *where* to go with the concept, though I thought that the series developed it fairly well. </p>
<p>I liked The Day After Tomorrow too. It&#8217;s silly, to be sure, but I&#8217;d say that it&#8217;s one of the best overwrought disaster movies made since the 1970s. The real bottom of the barrel for Emmerich, though, is surely 10,000 BC, a sort of mismash of previous Emmerich movies with paper thin characters and a thinner story.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Jammer in this day of TV on DVD, Netflix, and Hulu you really ought to try some of that stuff that you missed.  B5, Firefly, and Farscape (if you haven&#039;t seen it) would be on the top of my recommendations for you to check out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Jammer in this day of TV on DVD, Netflix, and Hulu you really ought to try some of that stuff that you missed.  B5, Firefly, and Farscape (if you haven&#8217;t seen it) would be on the top of my recommendations for you to check out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not planning on Stargate reviews here. But my dislike of Stargate the movie has no bearing on the TV shows. I have no opinion of the TV shows because I haven&#039;t watched them. The fact I haven&#039;t watched them has nothing to do with the fact I didn&#039;t like the movie. It has everything to do with the fact that I watch what I watch, and Stargate just never was on that viewing schedule (nor was B5, Firefly, or plenty of others).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not planning on Stargate reviews here. But my dislike of Stargate the movie has no bearing on the TV shows. I have no opinion of the TV shows because I haven&#8217;t watched them. The fact I haven&#8217;t watched them has nothing to do with the fact I didn&#8217;t like the movie. It has everything to do with the fact that I watch what I watch, and Stargate just never was on that viewing schedule (nor was B5, Firefly, or plenty of others).</p>
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		<title>By: Poltargyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poltargyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I take it we&#039;re never going to get any Stargate reviews here?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I take it we&#8217;re never going to get any Stargate reviews here?  <img src='http://www.jammersblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Latex Zebra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latex Zebra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stargate is very underated IMO. ID4, also brilliant. The rest I can take or leave. This is destruction porn of the highest order and whilst I probably wont rush to the cinema to see I will seek it out on DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stargate is very underated IMO. ID4, also brilliant. The rest I can take or leave. This is destruction porn of the highest order and whilst I probably wont rush to the cinema to see I will seek it out on DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2012 looks like it will be pure disaster porn. On that level, it may just work.</description>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To judge by the trailers alone, 2012 will be a mindblowingly silly over the top destruction desaster film, seasoned with yet another clichéd storyline of a divorced dad/mother struggling to save his/her child(ren) by outrunning the desaster and incidentally re-uniting with the estranged other parent (provided said other parent didn&#039;t die prior to the start of the movie). It&#039;s a trope so common in blockbuster disaster movies that it is paint by numbers for the script writers. The children will be either cloyingly cute (usually a girl) or bratty and annoying (usually a boy), and at some point the adults will have to risk their own lives to save the child because it stupidly ran away, or didn&#039;t run to safety when it should have but stood there frozen to the spot. Meh. In Emmerich&#039;s defense, every disaster movie seems to use this damn overused trope about the value of the family and blablabla that Americans are so fond of. Just look at that War of the Worlds remake with Tom Cruise. Or at The Patriot. 

No thanks, I&#039;ll pass. Disaster movies usually bore me because I can see all the plot twists coming from miles away.

Funnily enough, my husband and I quite enjoyed Emmerich&#039;s Godzilla. For one thing because it starred Jean Reno being awesome! And because I&#039;m no Japanese B-Movie Rubbersuit Godzilla purist, so I didn&#039;t give a damn if this big lizard was &quot;faithful&quot; to those old lame movies or not. Hey, it was a giant T-Rex stomping through New York! So what? At least it didn&#039;t spit lightning and wrestle with a giant alien moth. And I liked the characters (ok, except for the two annoyingly stupid reporters). 

But I have the suspicion that I know exactly why the movie flopped in the USA: Because it wasn&#039;t about a bunch of American Marines let by a quirky scientist saving the world from Godzilla, but about a group of French Secret Service agents advised by a Greek biologist (Dr. Niko Tatopoulus) saving New York from Godzilla. And making snide remarks about undrinkable American coffee. ;-) That must&#039;ve bruised some &quot;patriotic&quot; egos.

In fact, I once saw comments on an internet forum where some poster was in a huge snit about the way the American soldiers in the movie were shown to be &quot;useless&quot;, as he called it. Because they didn&#039;t manage to blow the shit out of Godzilla with their weapons. Nevermind that military weapons never stopped the Japanese Godzilla either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To judge by the trailers alone, 2012 will be a mindblowingly silly over the top destruction desaster film, seasoned with yet another clichéd storyline of a divorced dad/mother struggling to save his/her child(ren) by outrunning the desaster and incidentally re-uniting with the estranged other parent (provided said other parent didn&#8217;t die prior to the start of the movie). It&#8217;s a trope so common in blockbuster disaster movies that it is paint by numbers for the script writers. The children will be either cloyingly cute (usually a girl) or bratty and annoying (usually a boy), and at some point the adults will have to risk their own lives to save the child because it stupidly ran away, or didn&#8217;t run to safety when it should have but stood there frozen to the spot. Meh. In Emmerich&#8217;s defense, every disaster movie seems to use this damn overused trope about the value of the family and blablabla that Americans are so fond of. Just look at that War of the Worlds remake with Tom Cruise. Or at The Patriot. </p>
<p>No thanks, I&#8217;ll pass. Disaster movies usually bore me because I can see all the plot twists coming from miles away.</p>
<p>Funnily enough, my husband and I quite enjoyed Emmerich&#8217;s Godzilla. For one thing because it starred Jean Reno being awesome! And because I&#8217;m no Japanese B-Movie Rubbersuit Godzilla purist, so I didn&#8217;t give a damn if this big lizard was &#8220;faithful&#8221; to those old lame movies or not. Hey, it was a giant T-Rex stomping through New York! So what? At least it didn&#8217;t spit lightning and wrestle with a giant alien moth. And I liked the characters (ok, except for the two annoyingly stupid reporters). </p>
<p>But I have the suspicion that I know exactly why the movie flopped in the USA: Because it wasn&#8217;t about a bunch of American Marines let by a quirky scientist saving the world from Godzilla, but about a group of French Secret Service agents advised by a Greek biologist (Dr. Niko Tatopoulus) saving New York from Godzilla. And making snide remarks about undrinkable American coffee. <img src='http://www.jammersblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  That must&#8217;ve bruised some &#8220;patriotic&#8221; egos.</p>
<p>In fact, I once saw comments on an internet forum where some poster was in a huge snit about the way the American soldiers in the movie were shown to be &#8220;useless&#8221;, as he called it. Because they didn&#8217;t manage to blow the shit out of Godzilla with their weapons. Nevermind that military weapons never stopped the Japanese Godzilla either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Boo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stargate was a decent movie Jammer, but the followup series SG1 was better. The whole pyramids-built-by-aliens thing is very superficial, because the series goes far beyond that.</description>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering seeing it... until I read that it is 159 minutes long. Might end up being a rental.</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually enjoyed Stargate (Kurt Russell &amp; James Spader are always worth watching), &amp; Independence Day had a pleasant cast &amp; awesome SFX to allow me to (just barely) forgive the canyon-sized plot holes.
The Day After Tomorrow, however, SUCKED-big time; despite the underrated Dennis Quaid &amp; the gorgeous Emmy Rossum.  Godzilla, likewise, was a Jurassic Park-wannabe.
Here&#039;s hoping 2012 comes off better (both the film &amp; the year itself, when we get to it).</description>
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The Day After Tomorrow, however, SUCKED-big time; despite the underrated Dennis Quaid &amp; the gorgeous Emmy Rossum.  Godzilla, likewise, was a Jurassic Park-wannabe.<br />
Here&#8217;s hoping 2012 comes off better (both the film &amp; the year itself, when we get to it).</p>
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