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		<title>By: ruoxjcio</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: NoPoet</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoPoet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s too soon to judge the show as a whole after the pilot episode. How can we possible know where the show will go over the next few years, based on a single instalment which is simply laying the groundwork and introducing the major players?

I have seen a lot of premature conclusions being reached in the comments on this review. Zoe is the very first sentient AI, and she is &quot;near perfect&quot;. What makes it so hard to believe that the Cylon race will evolve over the next 58 years? Look at how cars, computers and mobile phones were in our world just 10 years ago, compared to today. All of these things have improved vastly to the point where they are almost not the same things they were back then, particularly in the case of cars, which are in general a lot bigger, a lot more powerful, yet comfier and much more economical. In most cases there is literally no comparison between a modern motor and its elderly siblings (compare the Peugeot 407 to the 406 and 405, or the latest BMW 6-series to its last incarnation).

Production line machines can assemble and paint these modern day behemoths a damn sight quicker than people could have built and finished off the smaller, lighter, boxier constructions of yesteryear.

Imagine what could happen with a sentient AI that was already at human level. How long would it really take a race of such beings to surpass our reactions, intelligence and innovation by a trillion times?

Anyway, I loved the way Caprica looks, its overly-flashy title sequence is growing on me (even if the blonde girl&#039;s hair is blowing in a ridiculous ethereal, indoor wind  which isn&#039;t touching the character who stands with her), and although I am fairly disappointed with the theme music, the title logo itself is impressively bold. 

I was really happy with the way this show integrates itself into the BSG universe almost instantly. On the other hand I found it consistently doom-and-gloomy, not just because it&#039;s a tale of death, grief and obsession, but because we KNOW that everyone in the account will be dead within 60 years, rendering a lot of what happens in the series to be moot.

I will keep watching Caprica until I&#039;ve had a proper chance to make my mind up about it. I am distinctly 50-50 at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s too soon to judge the show as a whole after the pilot episode. How can we possible know where the show will go over the next few years, based on a single instalment which is simply laying the groundwork and introducing the major players?</p>
<p>I have seen a lot of premature conclusions being reached in the comments on this review. Zoe is the very first sentient AI, and she is &#8220;near perfect&#8221;. What makes it so hard to believe that the Cylon race will evolve over the next 58 years? Look at how cars, computers and mobile phones were in our world just 10 years ago, compared to today. All of these things have improved vastly to the point where they are almost not the same things they were back then, particularly in the case of cars, which are in general a lot bigger, a lot more powerful, yet comfier and much more economical. In most cases there is literally no comparison between a modern motor and its elderly siblings (compare the Peugeot 407 to the 406 and 405, or the latest BMW 6-series to its last incarnation).</p>
<p>Production line machines can assemble and paint these modern day behemoths a damn sight quicker than people could have built and finished off the smaller, lighter, boxier constructions of yesteryear.</p>
<p>Imagine what could happen with a sentient AI that was already at human level. How long would it really take a race of such beings to surpass our reactions, intelligence and innovation by a trillion times?</p>
<p>Anyway, I loved the way Caprica looks, its overly-flashy title sequence is growing on me (even if the blonde girl&#8217;s hair is blowing in a ridiculous ethereal, indoor wind  which isn&#8217;t touching the character who stands with her), and although I am fairly disappointed with the theme music, the title logo itself is impressively bold. </p>
<p>I was really happy with the way this show integrates itself into the BSG universe almost instantly. On the other hand I found it consistently doom-and-gloomy, not just because it&#8217;s a tale of death, grief and obsession, but because we KNOW that everyone in the account will be dead within 60 years, rendering a lot of what happens in the series to be moot.</p>
<p>I will keep watching Caprica until I&#8217;ve had a proper chance to make my mind up about it. I am distinctly 50-50 at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1991</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POSSIBLE GSB SPOILERS AHEAD - I get it now (Hail Wikipedia). It was somewhat like I thought (about earth and the Five). I clearly missed a/the key element. My opinions stands though (IMHO). Things like that should be clear as a doorbell, not be sought after on the internet. And the whole Cylon-internal-turmoil-business didn&#039;t interest me one bit anyway.

One more thing: I fear the makers of Caprica are making the same mistake that most do when they make a prequel. They tend to force in elements that people already know and (hopefully) will find either interesting or fun. In this case it&#039;s the name &#039;Cylon&#039; and the fact that there had to be an Adama (Adams) in it.
Prequel are almost be definition contrived, because they simply have to end up at a certain point. I hope the strength of this series will be the drama and not so much the &#039;history of Caprica before the fall&#039;.

One thing&#039;s for sure. I&#039;ll have to wait a while to see it all. The pilot was released on dvd here mid march. Season 1 won&#039;t be around on dvd before the end of the year. Hope it&#039;s worth the wait (and the money).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POSSIBLE GSB SPOILERS AHEAD &#8211; I get it now (Hail Wikipedia). It was somewhat like I thought (about earth and the Five). I clearly missed a/the key element. My opinions stands though (IMHO). Things like that should be clear as a doorbell, not be sought after on the internet. And the whole Cylon-internal-turmoil-business didn&#8217;t interest me one bit anyway.</p>
<p>One more thing: I fear the makers of Caprica are making the same mistake that most do when they make a prequel. They tend to force in elements that people already know and (hopefully) will find either interesting or fun. In this case it&#8217;s the name &#8216;Cylon&#8217; and the fact that there had to be an Adama (Adams) in it.<br />
Prequel are almost be definition contrived, because they simply have to end up at a certain point. I hope the strength of this series will be the drama and not so much the &#8216;history of Caprica before the fall&#8217;.</p>
<p>One thing&#8217;s for sure. I&#8217;ll have to wait a while to see it all. The pilot was released on dvd here mid march. Season 1 won&#8217;t be around on dvd before the end of the year. Hope it&#8217;s worth the wait (and the money).</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ian - I&#039;ve seen everything (incl. The Plan), but I have to say that I don&#039;t rewatch or analyse anything. I savor the moment sort of speak and then let it pass. This enables me to enjoy it again in the future. Some people watch things over and over (like my wife) and realy enjoy knowing what will happen next and sometimes know verbatim what characters are going to say; I realy don&#039;t. (except maybe: &quot;Mr. Worf, fire!&quot;)

That&#039;s why I might have missed something important that explains my question. On the other hand: I don&#039;t like the tendency to create overly complicated storylines á la Lost (season 5 = horror). Storylines in which something is said or happens (almost hidden) and not realy picked up again, but indeed &#039;used&#039; to rationalise something that for some reason needs to happen. I know the typical BSG-fan likes things unexplained (like what the frack realy happened to Starbuck at the end of S3 and the very end), I simply don&#039;t. It seems to me like a cheap way to cut corners.
I can imagine that the explenation I seek are in season 4, maybe even in the ramblings of Anders.
What I (maybe falsely) remember from S4 in fact, is that &#039;earth&#039; (spoiler alert) was destroyed thousands of years before. And that the Five have been around for a very long time.

To sum it up: BSG in seasons 1 and 2 was my kind of show all the way. Seasons 3 and 4 were overly philosophical and complicated in structure, but not bad per se. The result is that I remember more from S1+S2 than from S3+S4. Hence my problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ian &#8211; I&#8217;ve seen everything (incl. The Plan), but I have to say that I don&#8217;t rewatch or analyse anything. I savor the moment sort of speak and then let it pass. This enables me to enjoy it again in the future. Some people watch things over and over (like my wife) and realy enjoy knowing what will happen next and sometimes know verbatim what characters are going to say; I realy don&#8217;t. (except maybe: &#8220;Mr. Worf, fire!&#8221;)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I might have missed something important that explains my question. On the other hand: I don&#8217;t like the tendency to create overly complicated storylines á la Lost (season 5 = horror). Storylines in which something is said or happens (almost hidden) and not realy picked up again, but indeed &#8216;used&#8217; to rationalise something that for some reason needs to happen. I know the typical BSG-fan likes things unexplained (like what the frack realy happened to Starbuck at the end of S3 and the very end), I simply don&#8217;t. It seems to me like a cheap way to cut corners.<br />
I can imagine that the explenation I seek are in season 4, maybe even in the ramblings of Anders.<br />
What I (maybe falsely) remember from S4 in fact, is that &#8216;earth&#8217; (spoiler alert) was destroyed thousands of years before. And that the Five have been around for a very long time.</p>
<p>To sum it up: BSG in seasons 1 and 2 was my kind of show all the way. Seasons 3 and 4 were overly philosophical and complicated in structure, but not bad per se. The result is that I remember more from S1+S2 than from S3+S4. Hence my problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Whitcombe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Whitcombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sven, have you seen season 4.5 of BSG?</description>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the pilot was fine dramatically and all, I liked the tone, the monotheisme versus polytheisme, the visual style and so on.

But here comes my biggest and maybe only issue: are we to believe that we go from this situation to the denouncement of the Cylons, to the Cylons+ (&#039;They evolved&#039;) as we know them from BSG, to a scorched &#039;earth&#039; and back to the attack on Caprica in just 56 years*. And you can take off a few years off of that, because (possible spoiler) Tigh is a long time friend of Bill Adama after the dramatic events on &#039;earth&#039; (sorry, people, my BSG-lingo is not that good). The speed of evolution in robotics that this suggests, is unbelievable to me. It would practically mean that they go from no realy good working mechanical robot (like the pseudo-butler) to the Cylonmodels we know from BSG. To me that&#039;s the biggest hurdle.

Somebody please give me a plausible explanation (I&#039;m realy hoping I missed something in BSG), so I can pick up the rest of the series once it goes to dvd/bd here in Belgium. I know it&#039;s worth it, I just can&#039;t take the hurdle yet.

* The subtitles in Dutch say (translated back to English): Caprica, 56 years before the fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the pilot was fine dramatically and all, I liked the tone, the monotheisme versus polytheisme, the visual style and so on.</p>
<p>But here comes my biggest and maybe only issue: are we to believe that we go from this situation to the denouncement of the Cylons, to the Cylons+ (&#8216;They evolved&#8217;) as we know them from BSG, to a scorched &#8216;earth&#8217; and back to the attack on Caprica in just 56 years*. And you can take off a few years off of that, because (possible spoiler) Tigh is a long time friend of Bill Adama after the dramatic events on &#8216;earth&#8217; (sorry, people, my BSG-lingo is not that good). The speed of evolution in robotics that this suggests, is unbelievable to me. It would practically mean that they go from no realy good working mechanical robot (like the pseudo-butler) to the Cylonmodels we know from BSG. To me that&#8217;s the biggest hurdle.</p>
<p>Somebody please give me a plausible explanation (I&#8217;m realy hoping I missed something in BSG), so I can pick up the rest of the series once it goes to dvd/bd here in Belgium. I know it&#8217;s worth it, I just can&#8217;t take the hurdle yet.</p>
<p>* The subtitles in Dutch say (translated back to English): Caprica, 56 years before the fall.</p>
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		<title>By: philaDLJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>philaDLJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the cafe Joseph and Daniel go to a STARBUCKS, by any chance???</description>
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		<title>By: Graham Pilato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Pilato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, absolutely, to compare with BSG, I was immediately in love with at least four characters right off the bat (Baltar, Bill Adama, Roslin, Starbuck... and Six shortly after that). There was nothing like that here, in fact, I don&#039;t know if I really LIKE any of them, particularly Eric Stoltz&#039;s character whom I found pretty irritating... Last year, Fringe had the same problem, minus one, as John Noble was marvellous and I really didn&#039;t like anyone else on the show, even if it was a very pretty, very well made show.

The episodes since the pilot have been a bit hit or miss. I haven&#039;t caught all of them, although a friend of mine DVR&#039;d them all, so I intend to do a little marathon next weekend with him. We&#039;ll see what I think, but I&#039;m not happy as I could be. Still, what great sci-fi show ever starts off as well as BSG? We&#039;ve been a little spolied, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, absolutely, to compare with BSG, I was immediately in love with at least four characters right off the bat (Baltar, Bill Adama, Roslin, Starbuck&#8230; and Six shortly after that). There was nothing like that here, in fact, I don&#8217;t know if I really LIKE any of them, particularly Eric Stoltz&#8217;s character whom I found pretty irritating&#8230; Last year, Fringe had the same problem, minus one, as John Noble was marvellous and I really didn&#8217;t like anyone else on the show, even if it was a very pretty, very well made show.</p>
<p>The episodes since the pilot have been a bit hit or miss. I haven&#8217;t caught all of them, although a friend of mine DVR&#8217;d them all, so I intend to do a little marathon next weekend with him. We&#8217;ll see what I think, but I&#8217;m not happy as I could be. Still, what great sci-fi show ever starts off as well as BSG? We&#8217;ve been a little spolied, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Grigg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Grigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m finding myself wondering if one of Ron Moore&#039;s influences in his re-envisioning of the BSG universe was an odd little mid-1970s series of Star Trek novels dealing with the &quot;Phoenix process&quot; -- a permutation of the transporter that created virtually perfect replicas of people at the moment of death or a near-death experience. The discussion of Virtual Zoe (&quot;she&#039;s a copy, but a perfect copy&quot;) reads VERY much like something out of the Phoenix books. 

 Those books -- &quot;Price of the Phoenix&quot; and &quot;Fate of the Phoenix&quot; -- were very controversial among Trek fans, first of all for being borderline-slash, and secondly for being something of a tangent from what most people considered the regular Trek universe. Ron Moore has name-checked the authors, Sandra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath, so he may well have read those novels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m finding myself wondering if one of Ron Moore&#8217;s influences in his re-envisioning of the BSG universe was an odd little mid-1970s series of Star Trek novels dealing with the &#8220;Phoenix process&#8221; &#8212; a permutation of the transporter that created virtually perfect replicas of people at the moment of death or a near-death experience. The discussion of Virtual Zoe (&#8220;she&#8217;s a copy, but a perfect copy&#8221;) reads VERY much like something out of the Phoenix books. </p>
<p> Those books &#8212; &#8220;Price of the Phoenix&#8221; and &#8220;Fate of the Phoenix&#8221; &#8212; were very controversial among Trek fans, first of all for being borderline-slash, and secondly for being something of a tangent from what most people considered the regular Trek universe. Ron Moore has name-checked the authors, Sandra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath, so he may well have read those novels.</p>
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		<title>By: Rua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jammer, I stumbled across this review in Cyberspace, and was delighted so to do, as I used to read your Star Trek reviews, many moons ago.  Hope to dip in from now on to keep up with all things Caprican!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jammer, I stumbled across this review in Cyberspace, and was delighted so to do, as I used to read your Star Trek reviews, many moons ago.  Hope to dip in from now on to keep up with all things Caprican!</p>
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		<title>By: knitpicker</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham - I agree about the lack of engagement with the characters.  I think that&#039;s why I&#039;m ranting about other aspects of the show that bug the heck out of me.  I watched the first season of BSG on DVD, and was able to engage quickly with many of the characters, which carried me over the stuff I didn&#039;t like (or loathed, in some cases).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham &#8211; I agree about the lack of engagement with the characters.  I think that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m ranting about other aspects of the show that bug the heck out of me.  I watched the first season of BSG on DVD, and was able to engage quickly with many of the characters, which carried me over the stuff I didn&#8217;t like (or loathed, in some cases).</p>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham, you may have a point, which may partially be why they hired Jane Espenson (known for her irreverent humor from the Whedon universes, I&#039;m informed) to run the writing staff.

Also, Patton Oswalt is going to be on the show&#039;s third episode (and I believe a recurring character), so perhaps he will inject some humor into the proceedings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham, you may have a point, which may partially be why they hired Jane Espenson (known for her irreverent humor from the Whedon universes, I&#8217;m informed) to run the writing staff.</p>
<p>Also, Patton Oswalt is going to be on the show&#8217;s third episode (and I believe a recurring character), so perhaps he will inject some humor into the proceedings.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Pilato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Pilato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this is is not funny. There was almlost zero humor in the pilot, no wacky, fun, striking characters. A neat mystery, a fantastically created world, a wonderful use of virtual reality in sci-fi plotting and thinking, but not a good promise for the future for characters. I didn&#039;t LIKE any of them, despite feeling quite interested and involved right off the bat. A very pretty, very impressive little pilot, but actually... not very good the most important aspect of being a drama worth following, establishing characters I want to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this is is not funny. There was almlost zero humor in the pilot, no wacky, fun, striking characters. A neat mystery, a fantastically created world, a wonderful use of virtual reality in sci-fi plotting and thinking, but not a good promise for the future for characters. I didn&#8217;t LIKE any of them, despite feeling quite interested and involved right off the bat. A very pretty, very impressive little pilot, but actually&#8230; not very good the most important aspect of being a drama worth following, establishing characters I want to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: karatasiospa</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1645</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caprica is definitely not a soap opera since soap operas usually are silly and cheap melodramatic stories with no theme at all (other of cliche romance and equally cliche power struggles). Caprica is something really different: a rare case of tv science fiction without starships and space battles, planet based and with a lot of intriguing social themes and questions. As such it is something really new and refreshing for sci-fi tv (not forgetting of course Dollhouse).
There is ofcourse a rather weak point to the plot : the cylon monotheism started becouse the first cylon with personality was created with the virtual copy of a young monotheist girl? for the moment i don;t find this very convincing but it&#039;s still too early to judge. Otherwise it is a very good start and i hope that the series will have a story arc as BSG did, the whole theme does not seem suitable for an episodic series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caprica is definitely not a soap opera since soap operas usually are silly and cheap melodramatic stories with no theme at all (other of cliche romance and equally cliche power struggles). Caprica is something really different: a rare case of tv science fiction without starships and space battles, planet based and with a lot of intriguing social themes and questions. As such it is something really new and refreshing for sci-fi tv (not forgetting of course Dollhouse).<br />
There is ofcourse a rather weak point to the plot : the cylon monotheism started becouse the first cylon with personality was created with the virtual copy of a young monotheist girl? for the moment i don;t find this very convincing but it&#8217;s still too early to judge. Otherwise it is a very good start and i hope that the series will have a story arc as BSG did, the whole theme does not seem suitable for an episodic series.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Langert</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1643</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Langert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, yes the (colonial skinjob) cylons were effectively children who did not realize they were children, who did not realize they had a great deal of growing up to do. Their emotional immaturity was a *key* point of the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, yes the (colonial skinjob) cylons were effectively children who did not realize they were children, who did not realize they had a great deal of growing up to do. Their emotional immaturity was a *key* point of the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1642</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>knitpicker,
    I agree that the father/daughter thing looked like it could head towards creepyville (given they were meeting in virtual sex-club), but I am hoping that now that Zoe is &quot;out&quot;, that won&#039;t be an issue.
    
    The immortal adolescents thing kind of makes sense given Cavil&#039;s actions in the series. Committing genocide just to prove a point to his &quot;parents&quot; sounds like something an all powerful teenager would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>knitpicker,<br />
    I agree that the father/daughter thing looked like it could head towards creepyville (given they were meeting in virtual sex-club), but I am hoping that now that Zoe is &#8220;out&#8221;, that won&#8217;t be an issue.</p>
<p>    The immortal adolescents thing kind of makes sense given Cavil&#8217;s actions in the series. Committing genocide just to prove a point to his &#8220;parents&#8221; sounds like something an all powerful teenager would do.</p>
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		<title>By: knitpicker</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1640</link>
		<dc:creator>knitpicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the end of the pilot, the question that was foremost in my mind - who the heck are the target demographic for this mashup of BSG and Buffy.
BSG, with it&#039;s eye candy and  vanilla sex was presumably aimed at the highly desirable 18-45 hetero male market.

I find the father - daughter fixation positively creepy /incestuous.
I find the virtual nightclub scenes lame in an over-the-top kind of way (is that really what people find alluring.)
Zoe reminds me strongly of Wesley Crusher - one of my least favorite plot devices in Star Trek.
I could do without the heavy handed mafia violence.

I actually found the source of the cylons one true god to be kind of disappointing.  

Are the cylons of BSG really immortal adolescents?

Bummer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the end of the pilot, the question that was foremost in my mind &#8211; who the heck are the target demographic for this mashup of BSG and Buffy.<br />
BSG, with it&#8217;s eye candy and  vanilla sex was presumably aimed at the highly desirable 18-45 hetero male market.</p>
<p>I find the father &#8211; daughter fixation positively creepy /incestuous.<br />
I find the virtual nightclub scenes lame in an over-the-top kind of way (is that really what people find alluring.)<br />
Zoe reminds me strongly of Wesley Crusher &#8211; one of my least favorite plot devices in Star Trek.<br />
I could do without the heavy handed mafia violence.</p>
<p>I actually found the source of the cylons one true god to be kind of disappointing.  </p>
<p>Are the cylons of BSG really immortal adolescents?</p>
<p>Bummer</p>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam: Thanks for the heads-up. I&#039;ve made the correction.

Brendan: The placement of this review on the blog shouldn&#039;t imply anything, either for or against, my plans/non-plans for Caprica the series (although based on previous posts and comments, there should be enough pieces for you to figure out my likely plans). That said, I will have another post with a detailed explanation in the next few days. Until then, I will remain enigmatically mysterious. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam: Thanks for the heads-up. I&#8217;ve made the correction.</p>
<p>Brendan: The placement of this review on the blog shouldn&#8217;t imply anything, either for or against, my plans/non-plans for Caprica the series (although based on previous posts and comments, there should be enough pieces for you to figure out my likely plans). That said, I will have another post with a detailed explanation in the next few days. Until then, I will remain enigmatically mysterious. <img src='http://www.jammersblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was indeed very good.  Whether it can sustain itself will only be revealed in time.

I&#039;ll be watching.  The ending, as you say, was more than enough of a hook.  As the Zoebot awoke, you could almost here Angel Six proclaiming, &quot;The first of God&#039;s new generation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was indeed very good.  Whether it can sustain itself will only be revealed in time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be watching.  The ending, as you say, was more than enough of a hook.  As the Zoebot awoke, you could almost here Angel Six proclaiming, &#8220;The first of God&#8217;s new generation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/01/30/tv/caprica-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you going to be reviewing the series or just the pilot? The placement of this review on the blog rather than the review site suggests the latter.</description>
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