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		<title>By: Peremensoe</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/02/23/tv/caprica-gravedancing/comment-page-1/#comment-3310</link>
		<dc:creator>Peremensoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 14:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These people are STO.
the STO are monotheist,
the STO rail against the decadence of society…while having group marriages?

what an oddly muddled morality this universe has.&quot;

What&#039;s the problem?

There is obviously no intrinsic conflict between monotheism and plural marriage; every major monotheist religion on Earth has condoned it at some point. &#039;Decadence,&#039; like &#039;morality,&#039; is often in the eye of the beholder. For example, Capricans, regardless of religious orientation, seem to hold drug use (now) legal and fairly unremarkable. Our polygamous ancestors would surely have found many aspects of our (and Caprican) mundane society irredeemably decadent.

I haven&#039;t watched far enough to see whether the group marriage element of Caprican society has any specific relevance to the plot, or if it is just part of the world, but if it&#039;s just the latter, I like it. Caprica is often *like* (Westernized, industrial) Earth, but it is *not* (Westernized, industrial) Earth, and the tweaks and twists to familiar referents are among my favorite aspects of the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These people are STO.<br />
the STO are monotheist,<br />
the STO rail against the decadence of society…while having group marriages?</p>
<p>what an oddly muddled morality this universe has.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the problem?</p>
<p>There is obviously no intrinsic conflict between monotheism and plural marriage; every major monotheist religion on Earth has condoned it at some point. &#8216;Decadence,&#8217; like &#8216;morality,&#8217; is often in the eye of the beholder. For example, Capricans, regardless of religious orientation, seem to hold drug use (now) legal and fairly unremarkable. Our polygamous ancestors would surely have found many aspects of our (and Caprican) mundane society irredeemably decadent.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t watched far enough to see whether the group marriage element of Caprican society has any specific relevance to the plot, or if it is just part of the world, but if it&#8217;s just the latter, I like it. Caprica is often *like* (Westernized, industrial) Earth, but it is *not* (Westernized, industrial) Earth, and the tweaks and twists to familiar referents are among my favorite aspects of the show.</p>
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		<title>By: karatasiospa</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/02/23/tv/caprica-gravedancing/comment-page-1/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator>karatasiospa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jammer i don&#039;t know why they split the seasons in two but the only thing that they achieve by selling them seperately for 20 dollars or more each is turning even more people to piracy,</description>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/02/23/tv/caprica-gravedancing/comment-page-1/#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karatasiospa, in the U.S., seasons two and four of BSG were basically split in half and aired as separate chunks (you can see this based on the air dates on my season listings pages). Basically they aired 10 episodes, then took several months off (in the case of season four, it was nearly seven months between the end of 4.0 and the beginning of 4.5) before airing the last 10 episodes.

In a way, based on how the seasons were structured in terms of the stories and with each half-season basically having a season-finale-like cliffhanger, I would argue that these all should&#039;ve been called separate seasons. When you consider that the DVD sets were also sold separately (as seasons 2.0, 2.5, 4.0, and 4.5), that just makes the case that they might as well be separate seasons. I think the reason they are not separate seasons has more to do with the way the contracts are written for the actors and writers and producers more than anything else, but that&#039;s just a guess.

I have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jammersblog.com/2008/11/29/tv/tv-season-concept/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post that talks more about this notion&lt;/a&gt;.

Based on what I&#039;ve read, it sounds like Caprica season 1 will be similarly split into two halves, with the second half airing late this year -- fall, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karatasiospa, in the U.S., seasons two and four of BSG were basically split in half and aired as separate chunks (you can see this based on the air dates on my season listings pages). Basically they aired 10 episodes, then took several months off (in the case of season four, it was nearly seven months between the end of 4.0 and the beginning of 4.5) before airing the last 10 episodes.</p>
<p>In a way, based on how the seasons were structured in terms of the stories and with each half-season basically having a season-finale-like cliffhanger, I would argue that these all should&#8217;ve been called separate seasons. When you consider that the DVD sets were also sold separately (as seasons 2.0, 2.5, 4.0, and 4.5), that just makes the case that they might as well be separate seasons. I think the reason they are not separate seasons has more to do with the way the contracts are written for the actors and writers and producers more than anything else, but that&#8217;s just a guess.</p>
<p>I have a <a href="http://www.jammersblog.com/2008/11/29/tv/tv-season-concept/" rel="nofollow">post that talks more about this notion</a>.</p>
<p>Based on what I&#8217;ve read, it sounds like Caprica season 1 will be similarly split into two halves, with the second half airing late this year &#8212; fall, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: karatasiospa</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/02/23/tv/caprica-gravedancing/comment-page-1/#comment-1807</link>
		<dc:creator>karatasiospa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No that was for the next episode!!! sorry!</description>
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		<title>By: karatasiospa</title>
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		<dc:creator>karatasiospa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Finally a great episode and a great science fiction episode. Now i&#039;m really engaged.</description>
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		<title>By: karatasiospa</title>
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		<dc:creator>karatasiospa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since i saw BSG in Dvd (BSG was not on greek tv at that time while caprica is now)  i don&#039;t quite understand jammer what do you mean for the season airing in two chaunks. Can you please explain it to me ? When these seasons 1.5 where released?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since i saw BSG in Dvd (BSG was not on greek tv at that time while caprica is now)  i don&#8217;t quite understand jammer what do you mean for the season airing in two chaunks. Can you please explain it to me ? When these seasons 1.5 where released?</p>
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		<title>By: enniofan</title>
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		<dc:creator>enniofan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question....the &quot;morning nuzzling&quot; at the Willow residence.


These people are STO.
the STO are monotheist,
the STO rail against the decadence of society...while having group marriages?


what an oddly muddled morality this universe has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question&#8230;.the &#8220;morning nuzzling&#8221; at the Willow residence.</p>
<p>These people are STO.<br />
the STO are monotheist,<br />
the STO rail against the decadence of society&#8230;while having group marriages?</p>
<p>what an oddly muddled morality this universe has.</p>
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		<title>By: alex99a</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/02/23/tv/caprica-gravedancing/comment-page-1/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>alex99a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just pulling your leg a little, my man.
Whatever, whenever!  :)</description>
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Whatever, whenever!  <img src='http://www.jammersblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karatasiospa, the first season is airing in two chunks, just like all of BSG&#039;s seasons except for its first season. It is essentially the Season 1.0 and Season 1.5 approach that SciFi/Syfy has done for years for many of its shows.

Alex99a, yes it has all happened before and may happen again, but I will get something posted sooner rather than later, even if I go with a briefer approach (which so far has not happened because I just can&#039;t stop myself).

The fact of the matter is that with my schedule Friday is the absolute worst day for me in terms of watching the show on time or getting around to writing about it. If the thing aired Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday, I&#039;d be much more on time with these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karatasiospa, the first season is airing in two chunks, just like all of BSG&#8217;s seasons except for its first season. It is essentially the Season 1.0 and Season 1.5 approach that SciFi/Syfy has done for years for many of its shows.</p>
<p>Alex99a, yes it has all happened before and may happen again, but I will get something posted sooner rather than later, even if I go with a briefer approach (which so far has not happened because I just can&#8217;t stop myself).</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that with my schedule Friday is the absolute worst day for me in terms of watching the show on time or getting around to writing about it. If the thing aired Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday, I&#8217;d be much more on time with these things.</p>
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		<title>By: alex99a</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex99a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has all happened before, and it will all happen again....

Jammer is getting behind on reviews   :)</description>
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<p>Jammer is getting behind on reviews   <img src='http://www.jammersblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: karatasiospa</title>
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		<dc:creator>karatasiospa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem enniofan is that, as it seems, the 1st season will be only 10 episodes. What kind of season is this? before the release of the pilot i read that syfy ordered 19 episodes plus the pilot. And now they will release these episodes in 2 seasons?! and sell them seperately?! that is cheating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem enniofan is that, as it seems, the 1st season will be only 10 episodes. What kind of season is this? before the release of the pilot i read that syfy ordered 19 episodes plus the pilot. And now they will release these episodes in 2 seasons?! and sell them seperately?! that is cheating!</p>
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		<title>By: enniofan</title>
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		<dc:creator>enniofan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, they have already filmed the entire season 1 of Caprica, and rumors have it that a 2nd season is greenlit, if you read Trekweb at all.

SyFy are very much on board the Caprica bandwagon from everything I&#039;ve read and heard.  

I mean you HAVE to know that SyFy knew they were getting into when letting everyone set up shop to film Caprica. Battlestar never had superb ratings, either.

and the financing is somewhat different for cable shows as opposed to network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, they have already filmed the entire season 1 of Caprica, and rumors have it that a 2nd season is greenlit, if you read Trekweb at all.</p>
<p>SyFy are very much on board the Caprica bandwagon from everything I&#8217;ve read and heard.  </p>
<p>I mean you HAVE to know that SyFy knew they were getting into when letting everyone set up shop to film Caprica. Battlestar never had superb ratings, either.</p>
<p>and the financing is somewhat different for cable shows as opposed to network.</p>
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		<title>By: knitpicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>knitpicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is why I use Netflix.  It saves precious shelf space as well.</description>
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		<title>By: karatasiospa</title>
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		<dc:creator>karatasiospa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just read that caprica ratings up to  reins of a waterfall were falling from 1.6 million for the pilot to 1.1 million for reins... and that is not promising gor the series. allthough it is still early to judge. But i also read that the 10nth episode will be season finale!! i hope they will not do the same thrick that they have done in season 4 of BSG. Seasons of 10 episodes ?! and then they will sell the season dvd for 20 dollars or more! i really hope that they will not do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just read that caprica ratings up to  reins of a waterfall were falling from 1.6 million for the pilot to 1.1 million for reins&#8230; and that is not promising gor the series. allthough it is still early to judge. But i also read that the 10nth episode will be season finale!! i hope they will not do the same thrick that they have done in season 4 of BSG. Seasons of 10 episodes ?! and then they will sell the season dvd for 20 dollars or more! i really hope that they will not do it.</p>
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		<title>By: enniofan</title>
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		<dc:creator>enniofan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ I would hope at some point in the show&#039;s run that we get to see most of the colonies.  

It would be a pity if they build up this universe across 2 shows and you NEVER get to see anything other than the minimal glimpses of Cylon destruction you get in Razor or The Plan.

I mean, they spend SO much of BSG harping on Sagittarons, yet they&#039;re spending a lot of time on &quot;Caprica&quot; drilling it into us that Taurons are dirt-eaters (and I don&#039;t much remember anyone saying anything about Taurons in BSG).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ I would hope at some point in the show&#8217;s run that we get to see most of the colonies.  </p>
<p>It would be a pity if they build up this universe across 2 shows and you NEVER get to see anything other than the minimal glimpses of Cylon destruction you get in Razor or The Plan.</p>
<p>I mean, they spend SO much of BSG harping on Sagittarons, yet they&#8217;re spending a lot of time on &#8220;Caprica&#8221; drilling it into us that Taurons are dirt-eaters (and I don&#8217;t much remember anyone saying anything about Taurons in BSG).</p>
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		<title>By: MattJohnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattJohnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I&#039;ve seen of Caprica (up to There is Another Sky) so far, I think the thing I&#039;m really appreciating the most from it all is the meticulous world building that they&#039;re doing. They&#039;re imbuing every episode with something new about Caprican (and Tauron) society and, I reckon, creating the most distinctive and fully-fleshed &quot;alien&quot; planet that I&#039;ve seen in scifi. I really adored the Tauron details that were put into &#039;There is Another Sky&#039;, in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen of Caprica (up to There is Another Sky) so far, I think the thing I&#8217;m really appreciating the most from it all is the meticulous world building that they&#8217;re doing. They&#8217;re imbuing every episode with something new about Caprican (and Tauron) society and, I reckon, creating the most distinctive and fully-fleshed &#8220;alien&#8221; planet that I&#8217;ve seen in scifi. I really adored the Tauron details that were put into &#8216;There is Another Sky&#8217;, in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Aguilar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Aguilar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scene in the car was very tense. I concur with everybody who says that they weren&#039;t sure that Amanda was going to live or not. Just wonderful. And the acting was great on both counts.

I don&#039;t think the melodramatic scenes between Mr. and Mrs. Graystone are too bad or overacted. I think they may be realistic given the trauma that has stricken them. Emotions are bound to fly. I never really mind the dialogue either. I do remember feeling distinctly for Zoe in the episode that she had to watch her parents have sex...

The show, so far (this having seen &quot;There is Another Sky&quot;) on the whole seems to be a bit too scattered for me. They really need to pull it together into a coherent whole. At the moment there seem to be too many storylines and plot threads. However, I believe that they can pull it off and it is for that hope that I continue to watch the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scene in the car was very tense. I concur with everybody who says that they weren&#8217;t sure that Amanda was going to live or not. Just wonderful. And the acting was great on both counts.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the melodramatic scenes between Mr. and Mrs. Graystone are too bad or overacted. I think they may be realistic given the trauma that has stricken them. Emotions are bound to fly. I never really mind the dialogue either. I do remember feeling distinctly for Zoe in the episode that she had to watch her parents have sex&#8230;</p>
<p>The show, so far (this having seen &#8220;There is Another Sky&#8221;) on the whole seems to be a bit too scattered for me. They really need to pull it together into a coherent whole. At the moment there seem to be too many storylines and plot threads. However, I believe that they can pull it off and it is for that hope that I continue to watch the show.</p>
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		<title>By: knitpicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>knitpicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to finally have an episode where I can begin to engage with the characters.  I&#039;m delighted with Sam and very happy with the portrayal of Tauron culture.  How cool that the tattoos have meaning.  It&#039;s interesting seeing the tribal loyalties take precedence over  job loyalties.  Then there is the stark contrast between the ritualized Tauron violence compared with the random STO violence.

Unfortunately, the whole STO thread continues to make no sense what-so-ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to finally have an episode where I can begin to engage with the characters.  I&#8217;m delighted with Sam and very happy with the portrayal of Tauron culture.  How cool that the tattoos have meaning.  It&#8217;s interesting seeing the tribal loyalties take precedence over  job loyalties.  Then there is the stark contrast between the ritualized Tauron violence compared with the random STO violence.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the whole STO thread continues to make no sense what-so-ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Eduardo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eduardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting Jane Espenson to run Caprica as executive producer was a smart move by Ron Moore. She used to get a bit of a bad rap from a lot of fans, when she was still writing for BSG.

I remember her early days as a Buffy writer/producer. I&#039;m surprised she was able to make the transition so effortlessly from comedy to drama, since she used to write the &quot;funny&quot; shows at Buffy and Angel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting Jane Espenson to run Caprica as executive producer was a smart move by Ron Moore. She used to get a bit of a bad rap from a lot of fans, when she was still writing for BSG.</p>
<p>I remember her early days as a Buffy writer/producer. I&#8217;m surprised she was able to make the transition so effortlessly from comedy to drama, since she used to write the &#8220;funny&#8221; shows at Buffy and Angel.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex99a</title>
		<link>http://www.jammersblog.com/2010/02/23/tv/caprica-gravedancing/comment-page-1/#comment-1767</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex99a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad that &quot;Backtalk with Baxter Sarno&quot; isn&#039;t a real show. I think I&#039;d watch it. Maybe they can do webisodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad that &#8220;Backtalk with Baxter Sarno&#8221; isn&#8217;t a real show. I think I&#8217;d watch it. Maybe they can do webisodes.</p>
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