Latest ‘Picard’ trailer reveals familiar faces

Hey, look! Data and/or B-4! Seven of Nine! Something that looks like a Borg cube! Announcements of the return of Riker and Troi!

The latest Star Trek: Picard trailer has some familiar faces. I think that’s a welcome revelation. Picard in a completely new environment would be interesting, but the idea of also catching up with some familiar characters is a good idea. Hopefully this show will be able to find the sweet spot between fan service and being its own thing.

The trailer now says “Coming in 2020,” so I guess the idea of this landing before year’s end has been changed.

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Riker’s Beard
Monday, July 22, 2019, 2:28 am (UTC -6)

Yes! We are finally living in a world where we are getting a post-Nemesis Star Trek show! I would say this is the most excited that I’ve been for “new” Star Trek in ages.

If this can pull everything off and replace Nemesis as the final “chapter” for TNG, then I am all for it. Nemesis is still so… ugh.

Chrome
Monday, July 22, 2019, 12:02 pm (UTC -6)

I posted in the other section, but it looks pretty good. Seeing Spiner though, makes me wonder how much de-aging CGI is going to be used. Sirtis should be fine, but Frakes looks completely different now – maybe he can get in shape and they won’t need the CGI body double stuff.

I’m not really interested in what happened to Voyager, DS9, Post-Nemesis, etc. I hope they put it in a significantly different time period where we aren’t visited by callbacks from “Oh hey, the Hirogen, remember these guys? Yuk, Yuk”. The story so far looks promising in that respect.

MadManMUC
Monday, July 22, 2019, 12:24 pm (UTC -6)

Well, to be fair, the Hirogen were some of the more interesting aliens in VOY. Would have been fun to see them take on the Jem’Hadar.

But, hey, I digress!

Destructor
Monday, July 22, 2019, 9:23 pm (UTC -6)

Why would Frakes need a CGI body? Riker ages. Data does not.

Chrome
Tuesday, July 23, 2019, 10:36 am (UTC -6)

@Destructor

You’re right, I just had the topic on my mind because it’s been used in a few things I saw. Unless they wanted to show an earlier time period like in “All Good Things”, Frakes could just play an old Riker whose put on some weight.

It’s interesting though, in Star Trek, characters are supposedly healthy enough that they live well over 130 (see McCoy), so I wonder if they consider that when doing make-up? I mean technically even Picard should have a good 60 years to go in his life.

Boooming
Friday, July 26, 2019, 6:50 am (UTC -6)

I know I post Redlettermedia often but this covers my feelings pretty accurately
(starts at min 4 to min 18)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70SSJLG72Q0

DataMat
Thursday, August 1, 2019, 3:05 pm (UTC -6)

The only worry is this series could end up like the X Files Revival series (Season 10 – 11) which apparently was pretty bad and from what little of it I’ve seen it was bad.

Picard judging from the trailer at the very least looks interesting and idea of seeing Seven and Data again is exciting. So I’m cautiously excited to see it.
Hopefully the series will sooth over the bitter taste of Nemesis which did feel like a somewhat disappointing end to TNG.

Mertov
Thursday, August 1, 2019, 8:14 pm (UTC -6)

I am really excited for this. Data, Seven, and apparently Riker and Troi all making appearances (brief ones from what I understand, thankfully) is great but I am more excited by the story and the return of Picard, my favorite captain of all Trek.

I am also glad that (at least what I can gather from the two-minute trailer) it looks different than TNG in terms of storytelling and structure. I loved TNG when it aired and I still enjoy the reruns but its style of episodic story-telling has been done too many times by other reincarnations and many episodes in VOY and ENT began to look and sound like remakes of TNG plots. I’m also ready for Picard’s problem-solving skills without being in the safe environment of the Enterprise and the captain’s uniform.

Bring it on!

MidshipmanNorris
Thursday, August 1, 2019, 11:30 pm (UTC -6)

@Chrome:

“Sirtis should be fine”

I was gonna make a joke about Marina Sirtis being beautiful, but I’m better than that. I really hope they do more things with RIker and Troi’s characters, to be honest. They were basically rewrites of Decker and Ilea from Motion Picture (shudder) that turned out to be marginally better characters in the end, but I feel like Frakes and Sirtis are better actors than the writing for TNG typically let them act.

The return of Data seems interesting no matter how you slice it. Data was the glue that held TNG together. Seven of Nine coming back is a fine choice, especially since, just based on the quick line we hear, nobody is gonna stop a take and tell her to “Do it more like a Borg” this time.

That bears some scrutiny, in a good way, actually. The fact that Seven of Nine has been written to have developed as a character in the nearly 20 year interim since we last saw her gives me some hope that this won’t be such a slapdash writing job as DISCO.

If anything, Star Trek needs to stop toying with its fans. We have seen enough ‘nods’ to older series and ‘Easter Eggs’ of series lore at this point to staff an entire agency of sleep-deprived Delivery Rabbits (ok that was the worlds most overcooked metaphor but gimme a break, I’m tired ok).

I feel like the parent whose kid has discovered a new thing in Minecraft and is desperately hoping this will finally get me interested in it, when in reality, I wonder why they haven’t beaten Super Mario Brothers yet.

Just write a good story. Forget about all the extras, add those in later if you feel like it. WRITE A GOOD STORY. I’m

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORED

Trent
Tuesday, August 6, 2019, 6:01 pm (UTC -6)

“Picard can’t kick people. So let’s have a young girl in there. And she’s half-borg. And she’s the chosen one. She’s the key to all this.”

lol@that RedLetterMedia link.

Snips
Friday, August 9, 2019, 10:15 pm (UTC -6)

Picard could be interesting. However, the Borg were overdone in Voyager, were shameless in Enterprise, and comical in First Contact. I’m glad they were kept out of DS9, and I’d hate to see them again in any capacity other than a total destruction or even a total saving of the individuals from the collective.

Anything else and they will make the show a failure.

Topics I’d love to see actually covered: the federation/Starfleet adjustment from dominion war. Gamma and Delta quadrant relations. Chancellor Martok? Instructor Miles O’Brien. Romulan and Federation policy after Nemesis. Further, did section 31 play a part in it?

..after looking at what I typed, I guess I just want DS9.

Sidney
Saturday, August 10, 2019, 11:56 am (UTC -6)

So many possibilities here. For now, I’m stoked. If we can get a continuation of DS9 out of this even better.

James White
Tuesday, August 13, 2019, 9:21 am (UTC -6)

Second the desire to carry forward some of the DS9 themes and storylines. Wish we could have a post Nemesis show in that style again

Despina Moamis
Tuesday, August 13, 2019, 10:49 pm (UTC -6)

Does anyone else think the mystery girl is Picard’s daughter with the Borg queen???

Desmond
Friday, August 16, 2019, 10:27 pm (UTC -6)

@Sidney, regrettably I doubt we’ll get any acknowledgement of DS9 whatsoever. Maybe a throwaway line here and there. I fear it’s destined to always be the black sheep of Trek.

Scott
Saturday, August 17, 2019, 11:39 am (UTC -6)

I don’t think I’ve seen anyone bring this up anywhere, but I’m pretty sure the person saying “Sometimes I worry you have forgotten who you are” is Troi.

DexterMorgan
Saturday, August 17, 2019, 1:09 pm (UTC -6)

Is anybody else amazed at how amazing Jeri Ryan still looks considering Voyager ended nearly 20 years ago???

Ian
Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 9:20 am (UTC -6)

I’m a fan of DS9. Would be nice if there’s an episode where they visit the station (if there’s a logical reason to do so.) I would like some update on what’s going on with Cardassia and what is the status between the Federation and the Dominion.

Wouter Verhelst
Wednesday, September 18, 2019, 1:56 am (UTC -6)

@DexterMorgan Right here. She still looks awesome. Aged very gracefully, I’d say.

Yanks
Saturday, October 5, 2019, 3:38 pm (UTC -6)
Mertov
Saturday, October 5, 2019, 4:58 pm (UTC -6)

In case the links Yanks left does not work (didn’t for me):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FySrgrKJguE

It’s looking good, I can’t wait. And it premieres sooner than I thought (Jan 23rd). I thought it was supposed to come out in March. Even better!!

Dom
Saturday, October 5, 2019, 5:56 pm (UTC -6)

Still mixed. I really wish they’d at least tried to match the TNG aesthetics a bit more. The Romulans look silly. But it’ll be fun to see the TNG family back together again, at least for a bit.

MadManMUC
Sunday, October 6, 2019, 5:00 am (UTC -6)

@Dom:

‘I really wish they’d at least tried to match the TNG aesthetics a bit more.’

I didn’t mind this *too* much to be honest, and the specific TNG elements we did see (uniforms in the dream sequence, Seven’s make-up, Borg cube, etc) are sufficiently left un-tweaked to make me happy. But, overall, I think it would be odd to see TNG’s overall neutral-toned aesthetic in this day and age.

I’m not quite sure what the make-up department was thinking with Brent Spiner, though, that looks really slipshod.

All in all, though — despite my initial reservations — I think I’m rather looking forward to this.

Tim C
Sunday, October 6, 2019, 6:23 am (UTC -6)

Forget all our other questions. What’s the deal with the TOS-era Warbird??!! I immediately demand to know more!

Also noteworthy for continuity nerds: an old-school TNG-era warp drive effect, rather than Disco’s Abramsverse effect.

It’s the little things that please me. 😀

Dom
Sunday, October 6, 2019, 10:26 am (UTC -6)

@MadManMUC, I get that they’re limited in how closely they can mimic TNG and I don’t expect it to look like the late 80s. But visually it’s such a big disconnect that I can’t quite believe that they’re the same story. I imagine TOS fans felt this way when they first saw TMP in theaters.

lasmelter
Sunday, October 6, 2019, 3:05 pm (UTC -6)

I have to agree with the Redlettermedia that Boooming posted.

Fighting, explosions, interpersonal conflict. This is not TNG. This is very much seeming like it will be action-scifi with people who say ‘Starfleet’ once in a while.

BUT, the episode or two that it looks like we’ll get of TNG reunion will be worth something.

What this trailer really kindles in me is the wish for a proper TNG finale movie or season. It would be so nice to see that.

I guess we’ll have to take what we can get.

James White
Monday, October 7, 2019, 12:12 am (UTC -6)

The last time TNG was great was 1994. 1 film was pretty good, but the characters were off. The other three were mediocre to poor. Show me greatness. I couldn’t care less about hype.

James White
Monday, October 7, 2019, 12:13 am (UTC -6)

No lasmelter. You really don’t need to do that.

Latex Zebra
Monday, October 7, 2019, 7:58 am (UTC -6)

Looks like a lot of fun. I’m not going to dismiss it on the basis of a trailer. There is enough in this to make me want to watch it and that is the job of a trailer. If it ends up being crap then I’ll speak out.

Chrome
Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 6:16 am (UTC -6)

The Riker-Picard reunion was nice but yegads — Sirtis’ voice just sounds wrong.

PM
Sunday, October 13, 2019, 5:46 am (UTC -6)

When will we see reviews of:

– “Short Treks season 1” (2018/19) x4 episodes
– “Short Treks season 2” (2019/20) x6 episodes, the first two of which have now aired (and are amazing IMO)
– “What We Left Behind” (DS9 retrospective doc…just watched on Blu-ray…the full-screen remastered space battle from The Sacrifice Of Angel’s made me lose my damn mind…And the storyboarded 8th season premiere sketched out by Ron Moore, Rene E, etc.. is epic and thoughtful all at once…death, life, Captain Nog & Captain Ezri and more)
– discussion board for Picard trailer 2 (or 3 if you count the teaser)

Has anyone else seen them?

Trent
Sunday, October 13, 2019, 9:16 am (UTC -6)

The HD remastered battle from Sacrifice of Angel, alluded to above, can be see here:

https://i.imgur.com/2PPhcrr.gifv

MidshipmanNorris
Thursday, October 17, 2019, 8:55 pm (UTC -6)

I’ve had time to properly digest all this, now, and I’m thinking…

The only way to make this all take a decent turn towards anything remotely dramatic in nature…

This woobie-looking chick who kung fu kicks people of balconies?

Kill her.

This is kind of the basic problem with all of Star Trek at this point is that there is never any dramatic price paid by the protagonists. Everything is reset back to status quo by the end of the episode/season/series/etc./what have you, these days.

I went into Discovery hoping Star Trek had decided to grow up. It didn’t.

You know what? No, Sir Patrick.

No, I will not watch this right away. I will wait for a good review. If I do not see a good review, I’m not wasting my time. You all suck. I am going to just assume that Star Trek is going to suck, hard, no matter what, from now on, because it has proven that it sucks.

I’m not going to be taken in this time. No thank you, no tickets to the hype train for me.

OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Friday, October 18, 2019, 3:10 am (UTC -6)

I don’t necessarily assume a-priori that it is going to suck. But I’m not willing to get sucked by hype, either.

Like you, I’ll be waiting for the reviews. I’m always open for the possibilities of being brought back to the flock, if you pardon my metaphor. But they’re going to need to work pretty hard for this to happen.

Robert
Saturday, October 19, 2019, 5:24 am (UTC -6)

Yes! Patrick Stewart is the executive producer, and Roddenberry’s son is also on the team. Best part of all, Rick Berman, Branan Braga and the other clowns who ruined Star Trek are nowhere near this production. They weren’t even offered a role in its creation. Thank god!

I am hopeful!

OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Saturday, October 19, 2019, 1:45 pm (UTC -6)

“Best part of all, Rick Berman, Branan Braga and the other clowns who ruined Star Trek are nowhere near this production.”

I’ll take Berman and Bragga over Kurtzman and Goldsman, any day.

B&B may have created their share of stinkers, but they also gave us quite few masterpieces like “Cause and Effect” and “Parallels” and the movie “First Contact”.

What did Kurtzman give us that’s comparable to that?

And Rod Roddenberry is nothing to be look forward for, either. Isn’t he the guy who got all misty-eyed about how season 1 of Discovery continues his father dream? Father must be rolling in his grave at transwarp speeds… His own son saying something like this.

(reminds me of Simon Well’s involvement in the 2002 remake of “The Time Machine” and how people raved that it must be a great adaptation because the guy was a descendant of H.G. Wells. Of-course it was a horrible adaptation. I have no respect to show-runners who pull this kind of cheap publicity stunts. It felt dirty in 2002, and it feels just as dirty now)

The only two names which are promising on the current list are Patrick Stewart and Michael Chabon. But the minute I allow myself to feel hope, I’m reminded that Leonard Nimoy agreed to star in ST2009… apparently, you cannot trust anyone in this mad new world. Not even Sir Patrick (and I have the uttermost respect for the man).

Well, I guess they did do one thing right: They are keeping people like me interested in how things will go. 🙂

Dom
Sunday, October 20, 2019, 7:29 am (UTC -6)

@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi agreed. I’m not going to pretend everything Star Trek that’s come out after 2009 was horrible, but is there anything that’s universally regarded as great or on the level of “First Contact,” “All Good Things,” etc? Even at its best, Discovery was merely an OK sci-fi show, not a memorable work of art we’ll still be talking about 30 years later.

Jimmy
Sunday, October 20, 2019, 8:14 pm (UTC -6)

@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi, Amen!! Compared to the current custodians of Star Trek, I’d DEFINITELY take Rick Berman and company any day. At least they tried to connect all the series together for the most part. Let’s not forget that it was Les Moonves who killed Star Trek. Remember viewership numbers and quality was improving by Enterprise season 4. Les was the one who canceled Star Trek. I’m sure Rick Berman and company would’ve kept it going if they could have. I actually wish CBS would hire Ronald D Moore, Ira Steven Behr, Naren Shankar and Brannon Braga as Showrunners.

James White
Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 2:20 pm (UTC -6)

MidshipmanNorris – concur with you.

Tommy D.
Thursday, October 24, 2019, 1:24 am (UTC -6)

Think I’m going to do this the old school way. I’ll watch it, then formulate my opinion.

Then I’ll read Jammer’s review 🙂

OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Thursday, October 24, 2019, 11:27 am (UTC -6)

@Jimmy

With Braga you kinda got your wish, as he is the exec producer on the Orville. He’s doing a pretty good job there, too 🙂

Thunderchild
Sunday, October 27, 2019, 4:54 pm (UTC -6)

Given it was the one major plot thread DS9 failed to address in the end I wonder if there will be a throw away line explaining whether Bajor ever joined the Federation? I’d also love it if they’d confirm if Ro survived the Dominion wiping out the Maquis!y

Jimmy
Tuesday, October 29, 2019, 8:37 pm (UTC -6)

@OmicronThetaDeltaPhi, true . I can see we share similar views about the what I consider the sad state of Star Trek. I guess you can say I’m a hard lined Star Trek purist. I believe you can’t just cherrypick what’s canon and what isn’t. For me everything that was shown or said on screen is canon, period. Aesthetics and story are all equally important. I know there are inconsistencies in the previous trek series but at least they tried somewhat. For me Discovery feels like bad fan fiction

Pm
Friday, November 1, 2019, 11:42 pm (UTC -6)

“Daaad!”
Riker: “Stop yelling!”
“It’s Jean Luc Picard”
You bet you arse it is…Cant wait for Jan 23

RE “No, Sir Patrick.
No, I will not watch this right away. I will wait for a good review”

Whoa dude, lighten up

P.s. the pregnant woman in Data’s painting (in Picard’s dream/holodeck recreation…probably dream…what a poor broken soul if so) is the Borg queen…the woman coming to Picard for help is his daughter who was conceived between Picard and said queen…callin’ it

Pm
Friday, November 1, 2019, 11:43 pm (UTC -6)

P.s.

RE “No, Sir Patrick.
No, I will not watch this right away. I will wait for a good review”

Don’t worry, I will write a good review so you can have permission to watch this show

Midshipman Norris
Tuesday, November 19, 2019, 6:39 pm (UTC -6)

@Pm

It’d be hilarious to think that you are Patrick Stewart, posting this.

OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 4:34 pm (UTC -6)

Interesting article.

I think the writer is right for the wrong reason.

I don’t think that having half a dozen non-related Trek projects is – in itself – a bad thing. There is ALREADY a fascinating interlinked Star Trek world, which can serve as a bridge between the different new series.

I also think that branching like this could be potentially cool, had it been done by a team that’s up to such an enormous task. The only problem is that the people who are currently at the helm of Star Trek are simply not capable of such a complicated worldbuilding project.

I mean, these are the guys who promised to fix the timeline problems that were introduced in DSC S1, and their “solution” ended up being a total cop-out (basically “Everybody is ordered to never talk about it, so we can all pertend it never happened”). There’s simply no way these people could juggle half a dozen different eras without turning it all into a total mess.

Bilbo
Friday, December 6, 2019, 9:15 pm (UTC -6)

Lets all hope that the new show isn’t a complete dumpster fire like the last one and we all end up contracting a nasty STD again.

Mitch
Tuesday, December 10, 2019, 11:03 pm (UTC -6)

On a rather somber note, we lost some notable people formerly involved in (real!) Star Trek this month.

As of December 10, 2019:

Dec. 8: René Auberjonois – actor who played Odo in Deep Space Nine
Dec. 5: Robert Walker – actor who played Charlie in the TOS episode, “Charlie-X”
Dec. 2: D.C. Fontana – writer of TOS episodes, as well as TAS, TNG and DS9

Rather sadden me to hear about Auberjonois. Deep Space Nine was one of my all time favorite Trek shows, and always hoped there might be a movie, sequel of some sort of continuation. His passing really lessens the possibility of that, and just sad in general to lose such a great actor and Trek personality.

D.C. Fontana is another hard loss, there are just so many great stories and ideas she contributed to Trek lore, in fact she embodied a lot of what Star Trek was.

Jimmy
Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 6:25 pm (UTC -6)

@Mitch… Amen. They will all surly be missed 😞

Mitch
Saturday, December 14, 2019, 12:53 am (UTC -6)

@ Jimmy – It’s also the first time we’ve lost a main cast member from the post-TOS era Trek (TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT). Hard to believe so much time has past that we’re at that point…

Which brings up the point, Picard could very well be the LAST chance for any kind of TNG send off (Nemesis certainly wasn’t it). How long before Stewart, Frakes, McFadden, Dorn, Spiner, Siritis and Burton are too old to act, or pass away? And sadly, with STP, it looks like we’re getting more non-canon (and more nonsense!) Trek, in the same vein of STD. I would prefer at this point if they just left things alone, unless they bring back classic Trek writers or at least people who know what Trek was about.

I think at this point I’m going to consider “All Good Things…” the final ending to TNG and make believe everything past it never happened (like I’ve done post Aliens, Terminator 2, Ghostbusters 2, and so many other ruined franchises). At any rate, seeing the original actors and writers die just makes me realize the Trek we knew and loved is slowly fading away.

OmicronThetaDeltaPhi
Saturday, December 14, 2019, 5:12 pm (UTC -6)

@Mitch

I agree that “All Good Things…” was the perfect send-off for the TNG crew. But personally, I think it would be a shame to pretend that “First Contact” never happened.

At any rate, the Trek we knew and loved is never going to fade away. Not any more than the works of Shakespeare, Jules Verne, or Akorem Laan will fade away. That’s what books, DVDs and Blu-Rays are for.

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